One of the most common real estate investing concerns that the new
investor has is, "What will I do or say initially when I actually get
over to a seller's house?" This is new territory in the beginning for
most new investors. With the right training, most people can take the
first steps of finding the area to invest in, determining market values,
determining who in their area to use for financing, and mastering their
public records system without much pain. When it comes to talking to
sellers, however, many first-time or new investors feel pressure, and
fear. Eventually, this will be perhaps the second most fun part of the
job after getting your check at closing.
When I started as a real estate investor, my main fear was that I
would say something stupid to give away the fact that I really didn't
know what I was doing. I had read almost every course on the market, and
probably picked up a little from each one, but I still didn't know what
the "rules" were when I entered the living room of the seller and
started to discuss making a deal. Thankfully, your seller won't know
what the rules are either, as they don't sell their home to investors
every week.
When you have done this business for some time, you will realize that
a house is a house. In other words, you'll know the common problems that
most houses face, how to fix them, and what it will cost. For example,
on houses older than 40 years, you can usually count on at least some
floor rot underneath the bathroom and kitchens because of small water
leaks over time.
Keep Your Seller Talking
What does differ from deal to deal, and what makes real estate
investing so interesting, is the seller. Your real goal is to be a good
listener and try to get the seller to talk. I always like to think of
myself as an interviewer on some sort of real estate TV show. You want
to ask them questions in such a way that it gets them to talk without it
seeming like you are grilling them. Barbara Walters softer "warm and
fuzzy" interview style that she sometimes uses is a good example.
Remember that the seller WANTS TO TALK TO YOU. They have responded to
a Magnetic Letter Mailing that you sent, and they are eager to get their
real estate problem resolved. Furthermore, the reason they are having a
real estate problem is that they have problems in other areas of their
lives. If you come across as friendly and polite, they usually will open
up to you and tell you their problems. Think of yourself as a real
estate therapist. I've had many deals where a good foundation was formed
between the seller and myself by spending time listening to their
problems, and working to come up with a solution that would benefit them
and give us the profit we needed to make on the deal.
I have prepared a loose script (in the following section) to help you
understand what I am saying to my sellers when I go into their homes.
This script is not from one particular deal, but many deals, though I
tend to follow the same formula. As I am writing this, I just returned
from a seller's home, where I presented a written offer on the spot.
This meeting is still fresh in my mind, and I think that this section
should benefit those investors with "stage fright." Note that the script
examples are not meaningless hypotheticals. Rather, they are all based
on conversations that I've had with sellers.
Show Up At The Door On Time
I always show up right on the time, never a minute late, or a minute
early. To do this, especially with our traffic in Atlanta, I typically
try to get to the neighborhood about 20 minutes early. I'll drive around
and look for active listings to verify that I have the correct
impression of what homes are selling for in the neighborhood.
I dress casually, but not too nicely. If the neighborhood (or my
seller) is more working class, I may wear jeans, but usually I'll wear
tan pants and a short sleeve polo type shirt.
Smile. "Hi, my name is Dave. I have an appointment to meet with
Russina Wy."
They'll smile and invite you in. "Thanks for taking the time to meet
with me today. You mentioned that you work during the days, and I know
it must be hard to get away during the week. I really do appreciate you
taking the time to meet with me, and I believe that I really can be of
assistance to you" This is basically just a comment to let them know
that you appreciate and honor their time, and that you are not trying to
come off like a big shot investor. I would lead straight from this
sentence into a general question that might lead to more conversation.
Your next comment should be aimed at something that they have in their
home, or a photograph of an interest (sky-diving) that you also have an
interest in and could bond for a few minutes. I used to have a stock
back up plan in case I froze up. Usually, they will have something on
display that you can comment on.
For example:
"What an interesting painting, did you do that yourself?" or "Those
are great miniature houses, do you collect those... (they respond etc.)
...I have an aunt that is crazy over those. She goes all over the state
to shows to find them" or "You must love to garden. You have some really
wonderful plants in the front yard ...(they respond etc.)... My wife and
I are planning on putting in some butterfly bushes this spring. Yours
are really thriving out there." or "You have a nice looking family there
in that picture, 4 boys? I just had my first, a little girl, earlier
this year."
Kids are the best thing to talk about. Even if you don't have any,
talk about your neighbors kids, or your sister's kids etc. This is a
subject that people like to talk about. If they are military, always ask
them where they were stationed, if they had to travel much, and what
their favorite places to travel to were if they were in Europe or
outside the country. This brief interlude of casual conversation before
business shows them that you are a regular kind of person, not a
cold-blooded weasel-like real estate investor that is out to steal their
home away from them.
After several minutes (usually 3-5 at the most), begin to go to work.
By this time, you have established with them that you are not a
cold-blooded weasel, you have some similar interests with them, and you
are a decent and kind person.
Begin to Ask Questions, But the Right Questions
1) "This seems like a nice area. How long have you lived in the
house?"
"About 5 years"
2) "I noticed a lot of stores and things on the way in which must
make it convenient to be in this area. When you sell your home, do you
plan to stay in the same area?" (This is a good question because it
often will get them to tell you their future plans, which are key. They
may be leaving the state, or moving in with a boyfriend/parent or
whatnot).
"No, I'm moving to Maine."
"Wow, beautiful state from what I hear."
"Yes, I grew up there."
"Really, what brought you to Georgia, if you don't mind me asking?"
"A bad marriage. I was divorced 4 years ago, and received the house
as part of the divorce settlement. It has bad memories for me, I want to
sell it and move back as soon as possible."
Hopefully, the above question gets you to the point of where they are
going, and why they want to sell. Right now, we can tell that the seller
is not thinking rationally about the house (bad memories), and that they
are in a hurry, which means lower sales price.
3) When are you trying to get this closed by?
This is a good question, because if they have a super-specific date,
this may tell us more about their financial or personal situation. For
example, "I need to close by January 14th so that I can pay my federal
tax liens against the property." Or, "I'm wrapping up my husband's
estate, and want to be out as soon as the probate is finalized, in
around 6 weeks." If they say, "No real date, I just wanted to find out
what I could get for the house, or what the market would bear," they may
not really be motivated enough to strike the type of deal we need.
4) "I sell properties by putting my final and best price on the home.
This seems more fair to my buyers, and makes the transactions I engage
in stress free. Do you have a bottom line price on this home?"
Questions like this bring it down to a point. You can find out
quickly what the seller is thinking on price, and whether you are close
to making a deal.
5) After getting a price, if you can, ask how much they owe on the
house. Then ask if they would be willing, if you could give them their
price, to let you assume payments on the house for a period of a year,
or two.
Always Have Your Contracts with You When You Go to Look at the House
The above script is not necessarily something that you should
memorize word for word. It does demonstrate the importance of getting
together with your seller, and establishing a warm relationship before
you get into the tougher questions. Remember to try and stay away from
questions that have an easy "yes or no" answer. You want to keep them
talking for maximum success.
Also remember to be genuine and real. While all people are different,
we are also alike in many ways. Even if the seller is from a totally
different background from you, you are bound to have some similar
interests that can create a bond and make them want to deal with you,
and not your competition.